even a quarter of a million miles you're gonna want a better piece. Not that my HKS is the best ever, but really- if you go with Borla you'll be disappointed. I had Borla on my first car ('84 Pininfarina Spider) and I wished I had gotten a more quality product. Their exhausts are SO generic they spend very little time engineering the bends and routing it properly. I'm sorry, but a company that makes pipes for so many vehicles really can't compete with the more specialized people (see site vendors) in anything other than price.